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I’ve been out sarging on and off for about 18 months and, whilst I’ve had a few notable successes, in main the results have been pretty thin.

I’ve recently had a series of 1to1 sessions with Beckster, to try to improve my game.

We’ve done bar game, dance game, street game and sarged at Erotica.

Every time we’ve been out something has happened that has changed my view of what I can achieve through game.

I have:
1) f-closed 2 girls I met on the same night (something I haven’t done since the early eighties!), in both cases on the first meeting with the girls
2) met girls on the dance floor (one of whom I f-closed) – something I thought I was too old to do any more
3) met a hot girl less than half my age for six minutes in a shopping centre, exchanged a few texts, arranged a day2, bought her lunch and ended up making out with her in my apartment that day
4) got the number of the girl I found most attractive in the whole place at Erotica (and confidently expect to f-close her)

I think you could safely say I’m a satisfied customer!

I think there are a few reasons why I’ve had so much success with Beckster:
1) Beckster is very cool. When I’m out with him, I think I’m cool too and I guess it changes the way I interact with girls. He’s out there smiling chatting being friendly and I end up doing the same. He opens A LOT, often only for a quick exchange of banter, then returns later if interested. Girls have often noticed how gregarious we are, before I open them.
2) I’ve used the first hour of our sessions to strategise about the text game, phone calls and day2s I’ve been having. I’ve often got hot girls numbers in the past and failed to get day2s. That hasn’t happened at all recently. I’ve failed to f-close several of the day2’s but that’s a MUCH better problem.
3) Beckster always has a suggestion – usually several. Whatever the situation, whatever the girl has said – he’s seen it before. We’ve never failed to come up with a good plan. The failures I have had came from failing to implement the strategy.

A few other semi-random points:
1) I like Beckster’s game. I think he can teach different styles, but everything he’s taught me is basically enhancing what I already do, rather than trying to re-build me from scratch. I have mostly used my usual opinion openers (nothing different to the stuff everyone on here knows) plus Beckster has encouraged me to use situational where I can. I’ve used my usual routines (also from the public domain) plus a couple of his that I feel comfortable with. My kino style is somewhat similar to his anyway and I didn’t change it that much. I think I’ve acquired a little bit of Beckster’s body language and mannerisms with positive results.
2) He doesn’t spend a lot time wittering about inner game (thank god). We just create situations and enjoy figuring out how to make them work. Inner game improves primarily through positive feedback from practical experience in my view.
3) Beckster is enormously positive and encouraging, but not in a ‘la la, every day and in every way you are getting better and better’ type of way. He just points out specific negative and limiting thoughts and shows why they are wrong.
4) Beckster in extremely patient (almost too patient) he was happy to follow me around while I opened throw-away sets in the shopping centre for an hour until I was ready to try and get a number. When I was, it went like a dream! Hurrah!
5) I have had an immense amount of fun with Beckster. That’s elevated my mood and changed the reaction from the girls I’ve met and of course it’s good thing in and of itself.

I’m aware that I haven’t written any blow by blow stuff about what we did or where we went. If I did you would find the conversations and locations unremarkable. It’s the same stuff I do all the time. It just worked better than usual. I think that was for the reasons given above – although I’m still slightly scratching my head!

Scoop


Pick Up Artist

I now feel different from when I went up to the UK considering only 2 weeks or so have passed I am feeling much better in approaching people in general. I am even taking the assignment seriously, that of speaking to 3 different strangers a day to become more fluent in speaking to the public. Finally after so much deep thinking whether to do the boot camp or not, I honestly from deep of my heart made the right decision. I should have done this ages ago. In fact this boot camp was the greatest experience I ever had that I am taking another one with my best friends in October (already booked flights, accommodation, etc). This experience was not just having fun but it’s having fun + building yourself and learning new things at the same time (getting those big ahhas!!) so it’s a fine package believe me. I was scared only of thinking of going up to the UK at first I really needed to get out of my comfort zone, by traveling a long distance alone, since I am not from the UK and had been researching boot camps like this, so decided mostly by the price as it was very achievable!
So, Friday was the first day I was very excited after meeting everyone we went for a 2 hour lecture which for me was a boost of confidence as I rarely speak in front of a group of strangers so that was definitely my second big achievement in pushing myself after the first one which was of going to the UK alone (was scary lol). In this lecture introduction everyone had to give his own story why we are attending. My story is that I am coming from a difficult past in which I was bullied when I was young from my school friends, been called names in front of women whilst growing up and having all these girls laughing in your face was pretty AFC, my family teasing me and having nothing to say back was pretty depressing for me too as I grew older (present days). So I realized I had to do something therefore I took great amounts of energies to get out of this shyness and become a mature confident man (on the way) by just getting out there and taking action not just by reading books. In fact these instructors told me that it should be 1/3 theory and 2/3 action! After the intro we had some approaching with a few warm ups by just asking for directions, time, where can we go for the evening, etc in Leister Square. After we went to a bar (forgot the name) and was pushed to talk to some women I even had a great 15 minutes or so talk with 3 women and Kingy helping me in the set…I later tried even to kiss close one of these but without success as she said she had a boyfriend back home lollll ouch!
Saturday then was the worst of all 3 days for me as I could not approach even one woman, was totally scared and frozen. Kingy gave me some deep thinking and talking on what am I feeling and how to take control of myself by just going up on a woman and telling her “please reject me” as a joke (since my fear was that women will reject me for just talking to them) we had great laughs by doing this and it was very helpful to think differently and from another perspective by just going up and getting rejected on purpose. This was not only fun but pheeewwww I released some of the tension (like a bomb explosion lollll) By doing so I literally started not giving a damn of what people are thinking of you (that was a great part and realization for me in which to build myself up and give myself a boost of positivity by not thinking too hard or negatively about myself). Later that night at tiger tiger bar we went on the dance floor and had some pretty girls dancing around us which was pretty cool and gave myself a push. Had opened 2 women alone from Spain woohooo finally, but didn’t stay long in the set and was told by the instructors to stay longer and talk on anything – just be there in the moment and talk; it’s how you say it and not what you say so I definitely have to build myself up more on this part. Overall Saturday was so and so I preferred Friday honestly!
But the biggest of all 3 days was when I had lots of other big ahhas…on Sunday as we approached lots of women in day game, first by simply asking directions for a warm up then getting more into the conversations and actually staying in for a while and having a decent conversation in which both parties could understand …man those bars are so loud to have a chat! I personally had a great 5 minutes chat simply by talking to this cute local girl that was so happy to see me lollll, we talked on music in general and what type of music we both like, places around London to hang out, if it was my first time in London (she literally kept on asking questions – cute!!). I realized that girls and strangers in general are not that scary to approach the more I was doing it the more fun I was having in fact I jumped with joy and hugged Cupid on the way back as it was so fun and a great achievement for me loll! Later that day we were told what are the best clothes to wear to attract women and have fun with it (pea cocking) by Cupid and Cieran, more tools to use yeahhhh!!! We then headed towards China town after an exquisite grasshopper drink which I never took before in my country, (please note that I now own my own juicer as I cannot live without it anymore lollll), here we went for some meditation and after we met Chloe (the gorgeous HB Helper) which I enjoyed training with very much as the role playing was very original, exiting and very practical to use on the field, was given indications of where to improve myself again…mostly body language and my inner game (beliefs, etc)….but personally the cherry on top of the cake was when we met Beckster at the same bar later that evening…this guy MANNN THIS GUY IS FANTASTICCCCCCC he gave us so muchhhhhhhhhh information to use that a whole new dimension opened for me at that time like NEO in the MATRIX (no joke!!!!). His body language, enthusiasm, passion, purpose, charm were extremely fabulous….I especially adored and loved the part when he approached 3 women with so ease from Germany on the way to O’neals bar, he was so confident that he turned the whole scene around by just being playful and open minded, the girls were so happy to see him and I just wanted to be him loll!!!

Guys my whole summary is that I’ve been my own worst enemy far too long, I started even boxing to get out my aggressiveness, made even things with certain type of friends which I used to be ashamed of myself just to seek for approval and attention and be accepted and be part of a group, all that is bull!!!!, all we need is more people in society like these amazing guys to teach people like me. + Consider building your inner self by listening more to yourself and what you really want in life and go for it no matter what. A boot camp like this helps not only in picking up women and having a laugh, apart from being a great start but you can see a whole puzzle come together since every part of your life can be handled with much more ease by not being hard on yourself, like I was doing. These guys were all great mentors (I am not being paid btw for this) and having a lot to teach and they definitely go the extra mile with you like Kingy done with me at the end on Sunday. We had a deep psychological discussion on my inner beliefs alone at the casino. He told me that I was too hard on myself he even pointed out some directions which I will start taking such as accepting more who I am and not trying to be someone big which is out of reach as per my goals I had. My expectations in life after what I’ve been through in the past were to change everything in a short period of time and was putting myself down and becoming so anxious about how people will see me and think of me till a point that some of my hair fell off with all this paranoia and shit! These goals I had were far too out of reach.

Overall….yo men out there, I cry out loud from deep of my soul – please do take action if you feel you need a f@#& change don’t stay waiting for something to happen just take few small steps at a time on building yourselves and stop wasting time on finding alibis and excuses of playing video games, not going out because you have no money, or your dog got a bite off your jeans and have nothing to wear!!! Go for such a boot camp you won’t regret. I wish all these mentors the best of success they are big no HUGE people with what they are doing, this should be taught at school, I personally had never been so excited to go to school
THEREFORE GUYS PLEASE DO TAKE ACTION is not about picking up women only but GETTING A LIFE! A LIFE THAT YOU ALWAYS WANTED OR ENVIED FOR OTHERS HAD IT AND YOU ARE STILL ON THE SHELF COS YOU COULDN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE YOU NEVER LISTENED TO YOUR REAL SELF, BUT JUST LISTENED TO OTHERS WHO WANTED YOU TO STAY WHERE YOU ARE JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE SCARED THEY WILL BE LEFT BEHING,

I know this cause I was there! Love you all out there.

J from far away land!!!

Here is the not so long awaited review of the Atlanta boot camp of February 15-17, 2008. Before I continue, I wish to note upfront that Matador and Kosmo are incredible not only as PUA’s but also teachers who are kind, patient, and incredibly generous. They gave far more than I expected and went above and beyond what was advertised. They had SO much to give and worked very hard to download all this incredible information into our brains.

The day classes were quite intriguing. As expected, the Venusian Arts model was taken apart and looked into great detail. To have mPUA’s to speak on it and answer questions brought a level of understanding and illumination beyond what mere reading could reveal. Have a question? Ask. Still not sure? Matador and Kosmo will explain with patience and skill. Word of warning though: don’t tell Kosmo that you are going to “try.” He doesn’t buy that word. Like Yoda, he believes in do or do not and damn, he’s right.

Quite a bit of the camp was Matador’s “Way of Being.” By creating an attractive identity and becoming it, you become not only more attractive to women but a better person overall. It sounds hokey but seeing men like Matador and Kosmo living will make you believe and it was the single most important lesson that I took from this class. Even if you do not become a PUA, this will make your life a better one.

I could go on for a very long time about the day classes but I would just be using the following words over and over again: informative, incredible, deep, and transformative. Why belabor the point? On to the nightclub training!

I had mixed feelings on the nightclub training and I must take a large amount of responsibility upon my own shoulders. I did not want to approach the first night- I just could not do it. Kosmo, again incredibly patient, just threw me into sets with the advice: say something, say anything. Don’t worry about lines- just get past your fear. I opened one set and then another, and then another. Guys, girls, mixed sets, whatever- I didn’t game so much as I just interacted and it was helpful. Indeed, by the end of the night I was having some nice conversations, had significantly lower approach anxiety, and was even approached by other who thought I was the club owner because I walk talking to so many people.

On the downside, I did not personally see the instructors demo that much nor did I work directly with them as often as I should have. I attribute this to either mis-communications between the instructors and the students or that I missed critical information since I left prior to the nightclub training to go home and change for the evening. In the future I would strongly advise that all students be given clearer instructions from the staff to maximize their benefits. An example might be to: “stay with your instructor for the first 15-30 minutes and you will watch them demo.” After that, determine how the instructor will spend his time with each student- perhaps he will open three sets with one while the other students open other sets.

Obviously the best-laid plans often go astray, particularly in a crowded nightclub. Also, each student will have different needs and those needs may not be apparent until extensive time in the field. Still, stressing to the students that the instructors are there for you and having some type of plan I think would be beneficial. Above all else, let the students know to not hesitate to approach the VA instructors in the field for help as long as they do not interrupt another student’s set. I was intimidated to do so at first despite their generous nature. I believe Matador realized the first night I had some problems since he asked me later in the hotel with great concern if I had received enough attention. Unfortunately I had a personal crisis at the time unrelated to the boot camp so I was not able to give him the best answer.

Still, I had an overall solid night. Why? Because I went from unable to approach at a nightclub (I had been approaching in day game) to at least *feeling* like a social butterfly. Heck, I was even giving advice to shy men to go out there and talk to a pretty girl!

The second evening classes I took far greater advantage of instructors and it went well in some respects. Unfortunately, the intensity of the camp took its toll and my energy levels flagged quite a bit towards the end so that I stopped approaching for a while.

Another issue I found was that much of the second night’s club was quite loud and many of my sets went awry because I could not communicate as clearly as I would have liked nor could I hear very well. A skilled PUA would overcome this but a beginner will find such a situation more difficult to surmount. I would suggest moving to another venue later in the evening that might be quieter and also keep the place from being sarged out by beginning PUA’s who flub their lines a bit… like me!

The last part I am hesitant to write since I do not want it to reflect poorly on Matador or Kosmo who I think the world of. With greatest care, I would note that in most boot camps it may seem obvious to some club goers that *something* is going on. In Atlanta however, between Kosmo’s fame (he was recognized quite often) and Matador’s sheer presence, quite a few people realized that PUA instruction was occurring. I was approached several times (I was peacocking in a white blazer and black shirt with silver threads) with questions like, “so this is the pick-up show, right? Where are the cameras? How did you get to be on it?” I didn’t mention it much to the instructors and I probably should have. I apologize for this.

Obviously, the people at VA are the best when it comes to instructing PUA’s and have honed their skills and program to high levels. I would humbly suggest that VA consider using a mix of known and not so well known instructors in the future to lower the profile a bit (at least as low as it can be with sensations like Matador, Mystery, and Kosmo).

As this review winds down, one question to answer is: “Am I glad that I took this class?”

Yes.

It was a transformative experience. Am I some master PUA now? Of course not. That takes time. The camp has helped to open the door but I must walk through it and tread that path. I don’t know if I will walk that path- I must let my experiences sink in. I did learn much, partially overcame some deep approach anxiety, ran tight game at times, and accomplished that which before I never thought I could. I also learned another, possibly better way to look at life as I ponder the question: “what do I want to be? What kind of man do I want to become?” I wish I had experience this camp ten years ago. Add in tons of fun and meeting some incredible people and what more could one ask for?

Another question is: “was it worth the 3200 dollar admission price?” That’s a little more difficult to answer and ultimately depends on the individual. I have enough resources to say, “yes.” Matador and Kosmo are incredible instructors and just gave *so* much. I can not begrudge them in the least.

A few final comments on the instructors, which was posted earlier:

Matador is one cool and collected cat who has his stuff together. Toss him in the middle of a bad situation (car going over a bridge, house on fire, hostage negotiation) and he just projects that he would not be fazed but would be the rock in that situation. His game is so integrated into his self that he doesn’t even seem to game- he just is. He doesn’t act as a rock star, he IS a rock star.

The solution for oil dependency has been found and it’s Kosmos- he’s a cool dude like Matador but also full of just an incredible amount of energy. Kind, generous, and isn’t fazed by his new celebrity status.

I offered to send Kosmo and Matador first drafts of this review to be fair but they refused in an incredible show of integrity and confidence despite the fact that a bad review could hurt their own livelihood. On Sunday night after class was over, they decided to go out to just have fun and invited the class along. We didn’t go out as students and instructors- just friends and I think it was the best night of the class. That didn’t stop them from giving me advice however and Kosmo swooped as my wingman to help me game a two-set in what was the best set I had ever in my life. Just vibing with him was incredible- I felt like an equal at that moment and together we gamed like we had been doing it for years.

I would advise students interested in boot camp to keep the following in mind:

1. Remember that your instructors are there for you! Don’t be afraid to ask questions, make comments, or ask for help. It’s easy to feel OMG, that’s Matador! OMG, it’s Kosmo! Screw that- they are really open, patient, and giving men. They *want* to help you.

2. Don’t give up! I’ll be honest- the experience was overwhelming and I actually wanted to bail the first day (not come back after changing) since it was so outside of my comfort zone. Remember to have fun and not worry- the instructors are there to train/help- not judge. You are getting to hang and train with two of the best PUA’s in the world and life doesn’t get too much better than that.

3. In case the day camp goes long, have some cool clothes with you. I lost some valuable practice time since I had to drive home to change clothing. Freshening up was nice though.

4. Learn and then practice some basic approaches and routines. While the instructors will give you some good basic ones, you still need to be able to deliver them well. Getting blown out of sets for stumbling over the stories is not fun.

5. As advised by the e-mails you receive prior to the bootcamp, make at least five approaches daily prior to the class to work on approach anxiety. I followed that mostly but I still had initial problems and thus I would advise further to make many of these approaches in night clubs to better prepare yourself.

6. This camp will be transforming if you are open to its ideas and work hard. As VA says though: it is not magic. This camp is about seeing how it all works, getting questions answered, seeing the guys demo, and being forced into the field. Practice, practice, practice will be as key for you as it will be for me.

Overall, it was a great experience and, at the Atlanta lair where Matador was gracious enough to speak to us for a few hours, I spoke up to the room (and with little tension thanks to this class) that it was transformative and a worthy experience. I also thanked Matador later for everything, told him that I think he did more good than he realized, and even hugged him! I don’t hug guys normally but that was how I felt- he was just incredibly giving.

My last conversation with Matador I think will convey my final thoughts on the camp: Should I continue on the path of the PUA, I entertained the possibility of teaching alongside them one day. I love the job I have but this can help other people and I would be honored to pass that on. No more needs to be said.

Be well all and the best to you.

I had the opportunity recently to sit in on a Speed Seduction» seminar in Montreal.  TokyoPUA attended the same seminar with me and will be writing up a separate review.  We missed the first day due to work responsibilities, but observed the 2 following days.  Ross & associates were kind enough to fill us in on what was covered the first day.

What I got the sense of through the seminar was that Ross Jeffries teaches the process of using SS over rather than just the structure.  Ross intelligently walked students through the process and displayed multiple demonstrations of using SS in both a linguistic and demonstrative way.  He also went over a lot of demonstrations of visual and physical anchoring which are hard to describe without seeing them.

Ross also took time on individual students that needed it, and even did exercises with them, when necessary, to work them through their issues or blocks.

Although I had already been exposed to a lot of SS over the past 3 years, I still was able to garner much new knowledge, some of which I put to use on a later trip to Korea to help me get a same-night lay (a report of that will be posted to the mASF forum).

What I liked, also, was that Ross taught how to use SS to allow a guy to say what he wanted without concern over whether a particular woman’s archetypal image of a man was being portrayed or not.  Mainly, he showed ways to create interest regardless of whether that archetype was being matched or not, by focusing on the linguistic and kinesthetic/anchoring aspects of seduction.  He also covered a good amount on initial stages of approach and initiating with a chick to create a strong base for further seduction.

I’m writing this review about 6 weeks after taking the course. First something about myself. I’m 31 and have had my share of successes with women. I’d say I’ve gotten laid more than average but I would not consider myself a natural except perhaps in very particular circumstances and with particular types of girls. What I have always lacked is a consistent ability to do cold approaches and this was my goal with the bootcamp. I’m finding myself in a life situation where I don’t want to date people from my work, and I’ve tried the internet and met too many chicks who don’t look as good as their picture, so I decided I had to learn how to approach women I don’t already know.

I have been told that my looks are above average and that I’m funny and intelligent but until recently I had always lacked social intelligence (like knowledge of the whole concept of status) and had been more of an introvert. Both of these things had really kept me back even though I was excelling in other areas. Having worked very hard on these things and having finally arrived at a point where I felt like I could even attempt something like an RSD bootcamp, I signed up.

OK now to the review.

During my weekend at the Project Hollywood mansion, I had the good fortune of having Randy, Todd and Roxanna as my instructors. Geoff was out of town as were all the other guys that I was hoping would be there (Tyler, Papa, etc…), who were at a seminar. I have to admit that I was disappointed that these other guys were not there after all I had heard about them. However, the experience I had with Randi and Todd definitely made me feel like I got good value out of it. There was also a “guest instructor” there named Alex who was a super cool guy who I really got on well with. He would debrief me after my nights out and give me great feedback. He was the kind of guy who was able to convey a lot of personality and served as a good role model for just being a cool guy. He is not an executive coach so he is not a regular but I think his goodwill speaks to the fact that there are a lot of great guys in this community who will help other guys out. There was also an intern there who was soft-spoken but very cool.

There was one other student there besides me, a 19 year university freshman from the East coast of the States. He looked very young and, like me when I was nineteen, was a bit shy and unsure of himself. I almost didn’t recognize the guy by the end of it – he had really undergone quite a transformation both in his appearance and in his overall confidence.

Throughout the weekend, we were given lectures by Randy and Todd on every stage of their 5-point escalation model, from opener to close with numerous examples of each technique. We were also made to come up with our own examples on the spot in front of them – e.g interactive value demonstration and stories.

The first night, we went out to a large open-air market. There Todd demonstrated a set on a group of three girls and a guy seated at a table in a fairly noisy area. Without hesitation he walked right up to the group, opened them, got the whole group focused on him, seated himself eventually and held the group’s attention. There were signs of attraction coming from some of the girls almost immediately. The demonstration lasted about ten minutes. It was very impressive! I had one complaint about the situation and that was that the area was quite noisy and it was really hard to hear exactly what was being said. I have no doubt that what was being said was effective because I could read the body language of Todd and the girls but I wasn’t able to integrate the routines into my auditory memory because I couldn’t hear them. The instructors do a good job of demonstrating the routines during the lecture portion of the bootcamp, but if you are an very auditory person like me I think it really helps to hear them demonstrated in the field a few times in the moment. I did have the chance to hear some of the routines when I went to wing with Randi. If you can stand the slight discomfort of standing next to the instructors as they run their game (because their game is really tight so it’s difficult to feel like your contribution will be up to par) you will gain immensely by just hearing them.

When the other student stalled which was probably a little more frequently because of his relative inexperience, the instructors would step in to keep the set going. Sometimes they pretty much ran the set from there on in. With me, they stepped in less because I was able to keep things going more often. So on the one hand, I felt good that I was getting enough attraction from some of my sets to keep things going on my own, but it meant getting to watch the instructors in action less often. I think this would have helped me a lot and made the course more valuable. However, I think the instructors try hard to strike a balance between demonstrating sets and getting you to run sets and giving you feedback afterwards, but the emphasis is definitely on getting you to run sets. I was relying on improv almost exclusively and found I had trouble integrating a lot of the canned material into my sets – this was probably for personal reasons and maybe because the material was so new to me. I was using situational openers almost exclusively and was transitioning into rapport and cocky/funny frames on a lot of my sets. I would get good feedback afterwards, mostly on stuff like vocal projection and body language, mannerisms, etc.. What I personally wanted more feedback on was stuff I was saying. I always wonder if I’m being too sarcastic or making dumb jokes/comments so I wanted some feedback on this. Again it’s difficult for the instructors to hear this in a club or noisy area unless they are right next to you. They did take us to quieter areas like Barnes and Noble so I got some of it. I also got this on the last day when we were walking around shopping. I was told that I could come across as arrogant. This is exactly the shit that I wanted to hear because it isn’t easy to get honest feedback like this in everyday life. People will just tend to get pissed at you or walk away without telling you. Or they may not want to offend you so they zip their lip about it. So in addition to being very helpful about how to meet women, the course will help your social life in general. But I think a student should make a point of addressing individual sticking points with the instructors at the beginning and asking them to watch for specific things because had I not asked Randi about this specifically I’m not sure he would have said anything.

Things I found really helpful

1.Hearing a short “routine” demonstrated and being given a written outline of a structure for a routine. Randi told me that when he first started out he would run the same routine over and over again on set after set. This was something I was initially hesitant about doing because it would feel “phoney” to me but now that I am in the field more, I find that my improv game stalls a lot more, especially when I am tired so I want something to fall back on (Read “1st post – Montreal sarge at Traffic” May 23, 2005 in ‘field reports’).

2.Watching a routine being demonstrated and having one of the other instructors describe in real time what the girl’s body language was conyeying about her. I found this to be totally mind-blowing and incredibly helpful. In fact I wanted a lot more of it because I was never great at reading body language.

Suggestions

Far be it for me to tell these guys how to run their business but from a student’s perspective I thought that the following things might have been helpful. Breaking things down more in the field – running things more like drills – like getting the student to use one particular opener and then getting them to do it like a thousand times and running mini sets. Then maybe the next night do that with something else like storytelling and IVD (with the same story and IVD) using the already very polished opener and hook from the night before – so that by the end of the bootcamp they have a polished routine that has been calibrated and polished. I came out of the bootcamp with a lot of ideas and information but I found it hard to approach women when I got home because I still didn’t have much of a routine down so I was still left with all the uncertainty of the improv/natural style. Maybe this has already been tried by the RSD guys – I would be interested in hearing from them on this point.

Despite the detailed criticisms of the course that I’ve provided, the experience was incredibly liberating and mind-blowing. The bootcamp is worth every penny because it helps you invest in a skill that will serve you for the rest of your life. I did things I would have never done. I walked up to a group of six fairly good-looking girls and tried to command their attention. I didn’t get blown out like I thought I would. I persisted with a really beautiful women long after I would have otherwise quit and found that I was actually able to push past her resistance and get her to practically obey my every command. I was surprised at the amount of attraction that I was getting and realized that it was my own lack of experience with attraction that kept me from progressing on to more intimate situations.
The bootcamp puts so much power back into the hands of the guy by instilling in him a whole attitude and approach to meeting women (not caring about outcome, the philosophy that every approach is bringing you one step closer to being good at approaching, the realization that you can do it – it’s mostly your own mind that keeps you from doing it – which is not allowed to happen because these guys literally push you into situations that challenge your comfort zone).
All in all, just like any learning experience, you only get out of it what you put into it. The instructors are great but you have to match their efforts with your own. A good approach is to pretty much just listen to them and not argue about stuff. They’ve done this thousands of times. Responses from girls become predictable based on their mood/personality and these guys know the best responses. Also ask lots of questions because there is a fair amount of free time (driving to and from, eating together, debriefing).
I’d recommend it to any guy that wants more out of his sex/social life.

David

Before my review I just have to give a few quick shout outs.

Bill – Thanks for everything dude! You really helped me out with the entire process.

Bonsai – I really appreciate all your help and advice. Your words of wisdom really helped me out on Day 2, you have no idea!

Jeremy Soul – Speechless….

Before this workshop , I was just your average guy who stayed on the forums and probably pissed off “Truestory” and “CM Pitts”. I was debating for over a year if I should take a Love Systems bootcamp . There were many reasons why (money, time, etc.) But after finally saving enough money, and selling tons of personal shit, I finally took a chance. Thank God I did.

Since I’m pretty young, 18 yrs. old, I decided to take a Day Game Workshop . I felt that day game would be a perfect place to start for me. As I was heading to nyc on the first day of the bootcamp , I was honestly nervous as shit, but also excited. Almost how like you would feel if you were going to a party, or participating in a sport. I was scared that the instructors were going to be assholes who are just there to be there. I was pretty nervous about the other students because I also thought they were going to be there for themselves also. However, that all changed instantly.

The students that were there were cool as hell. They were all helpful and gave excellent feedback. Every single guy there was chill, relaxed, and just fucking awesome. There were even a few who took a bootcamp .

It’s funny how you try to act normal and calm when you see someone that you’ve been looking up too for a while. I think I watched just about every Jeremy Soul video out there and read almost all of his articles. As soon as he entered the room, you felt his presence. Honestly, this is really fucking hard to explain, but I’ll try my best.

Jeremy Soul has confidence, toughness, intelligence, politeness, all bit in one. This man has “it”. The way he talks and moves around gets you so motivated and hyper that you just want to fucking scream (sorry for the language). I really think Jeremy Soul could be what ever the hell he wants to be. If he wakes up one day and decides to pursue a career in mixed martial arts, he’ll be fighting George St. Pierre in a month. If he ever wanted to become a singer, you’ll see him performing at the VMA’s in a year. Jeremy Soul is legendary and quite possibly one of the most amazing people I have ever met in my entire life.

The seminar part of the workshop was incredible. Soul explains everything so well and his examples are really helpful. I have never been so happy to be in a classroom learning environment in my life. This is for the people who stay on the forums…..I learned much more in 2 hours just from hearing Soul talk than I did in the 2 years I have been around the community.

Before I get to the in field part of the workshop . I have to get to the other instructors.

Every single instructor that took part of the workshop is fucking amazing. One thing that I noticed quickly, was that they all had confidence and pefect body language , especially V. You could almost tell that they were the instructors.

Vercetti scared the living shit out of me just by walking past me. I was really nervous when I was first worked with him in field. The guy is built like a fucking machine. But honestly, you won’t meet a nicer guy. His body language is amazing! If anybody needs help with body language or has any questions on body language …..vercetti . That’s all I’m gonna say, Vercetti .

Bullet looks absolutely incredible for his age. You could tell just by the way he walks that he gets incredible women.

Another cool instructor was Olly. The man looks like a fucking model and you’re almost intimidated by his size. But Olly was really cool, just like all of the instructors were.

Some of the other instructors were Howard, Victor, LA2NY, Alex, and Kaushal. They all help you out. Some of them are going to toughen you up (Howard). Some of them are going to help you out, especially with your approaching (Kaushal & Victor), and some of them are just too fucking cool that you just want to chill and hang out with them, just for one day. (LA2NY & Alex)

I am going to be perfectly honest. The in field was so much fun, but so tough. Don’t expect to become a Jeremy Soul in one day, because you’re not. After the first day in field, I honestly felt like quitting because that was the mind set that I had. I thought I was going to be the shit after one day. Wrong fucking idea! But thank god I stayed for day 2.

In field, you get so much attention from the instructors it’s ridiculous. They will each help you out individually and give you so much feedback that it’s insane. The in field turned out to be so much fun! And last but not least, you get to work with Jeremy Soul . Soul helps you out so much that you almost feel blessed.

As the workshop ended, I was so fucking excited. Soul and the instuctors didn’t just teach me about day game , they taught me about confience, and about life. This workshop has motivated me so much and made me a better person. I am forever greatful.

Thank You Savoy & Love Systems .
Thank You Bill.
Thank You Bonsai .
Thank You Vercetti (My body language and confidence has improved so much just by being around you.)
Thank You Bullet .
Thank You Howard.
Thank You Victor.
Thank You LA2NY.
Thank You Alex.
Thank You Kaushal.
Thank You Olyy (You’re the man bro.)

Am I forgetting someone?……….oh yea

Last but not least,

Thank You Jeremy Soul . Thank You for teaching, building my confidence, making me into a better person, and being a friend that I look up too.

- Angel Rios.

Let me start with a brief paragraph about me, before I did this, so you know where I’m coming from.

I’m 22 years old, new to the game. I’ve come from quite a fxcked background. Not long ago, I was a wreck, I had managed to almost completely obliterate my social circle. I was drinking every day, smoking, self harming with the occasional suicide attempt. I was always very socially awkward, a hermit with no conversation skills. Since school up until working my last job, numerous hours were spent during break times in the toilet cubicle with an ipod to avoid other people. To cut a long story short, I decided I wanted to do something about my life, I wanted to get outside of myself. I started doing various things to develop myself, I found out about this boot camp, I hardly had enough money to take it, but decided to bite the bullet. I knew I wanted to improve myself and overall confidence as soon as possible.I chose Puamethod, because of a friend recommendation and the vibe of the website, advertising not only to improve your skills with women, but in life.

DAY 1)

-We started the boot camp with theory at The Casino at The Empire with Cieran, and two other PUA’s, Tyrone and Jordan,(I’m not too sure their PUA names)
All of the people in the group were new to this, they gave us an introduction, were happy to answer any questions we had, gave us some routines and advice. They shared their background with us, explaining how similar most of them were to us a few years ago.

-We then went on to O’Neill’s. As we were all beginners, the only thing we were instructed to do was to open and get comfortable doing that. The instructors showed us how its done. They opened and stayed in sets for ages, played around, teased, got a few number closes and a k-closed within minutes. We all opened a few, and I definitely went outside my comfort zone. We then took to the streets to see some street game. That was enough for one night

DAY 2)

-On Saturday we started with more theory with Kingy, Cupid, and Cieran at On Anon, they explained things in detail, then as the night started we stayed, and put the theory into practice. Kingy and Cupid really pushed me into opening sets. For a small time, the playful side of me came out, I was talking to everyone and just getting comfortable opening and going further outside my comfort zone.
-It seemed to be Hen Party night that night, which changed the atmosphere, quite few of them were very hard to open but the instructors showed us how to have fun and made us approach as many as possible. I made two approaches on the way home that night. No closes, but as my eyes were opening I could start seeing the matrix so to speak, the possibilities that I could with some pratice.

DAY 3)

-On Sunday we did day game work with Cupid, Jordan and Tyrone. I found this more difficult, than the others, and only really opened one girl.
-We were introduced to pea cocking, I already knew about this, but didn’t know the good places to shop. They took us round shops in Leicester square and Trocadero. Later Kingy went through some more theory, inner game and we put things into practice on one of the instructors, Chloe. Its obviously different to real life as you don’t get second chances, and you know she’s an instructor. But still, to my surprise, I learnt quite a lot.

-My personal highlight of the boot camp was when we met Beckster. This guy was an inspiration, not just as a PUA, but as a person. Putting it simply, He’s happy. He’s charming, has a great sense of humor, and has incredibly contagious charisma and energy. He loves the craft and teaches with great passion and enthusiasm. Most importantly I learnt loads from him. He knows his craft inside out and had a solution for the problems we went through.
He laid his methods out simply and in detail until we would be able to use it in field. He shared some tips, tricks and routines. Then we went in field. Opened sets, some of us closed, including me with an email close and most importantly had fun. It was when we were having fun, and I felt good, i started noticing IOI’s all over the place, even from a woman who was on a date.

-We then went to debrief with Kingy and Beckster. Kingy took us aside one by one to help us tackle personal issues and sticking points to help our inner game. He spent a lot of time with us and was very patient. As soon as i get some more cash together I’ll be doing some more 1-1′s with Kingy and Beckster. I’ve made more progress with these guys in 3 days, than I have a month in CB therapy costing a lot more!!

-I already knew intellectually, that the art of seduction was a learnable craft, but Beckster and Kingy that night really made me know on a gut level that its really learnable for me too. And I intend to learn it and practice it full on now. I guess if a course can make you more excited to get out there and learn and practice, then its done its job.
-The other instructors were great too, Cupid, a half asian brother, Jordan and Tyrone. I hope to see them all soon.

- So even in a small group, the instructors still see your sticking points and give personal direction and tips. They care and invest in you, so I ended up wanting to do well not just for myself but out of respect for them.
-The only things I’d say was it didn’t seem to last long enough, we ran out of time for meditation, and the teaching took place inside busy venues so there were some distractions, but I managed to cope fine with that. I’m sure if I repeated the boot camp again, I’d learn more be able to push myself even further.
-I didn’t expect any major closes after a weekend. For now I know I can open and approach, something I’ve done maybe three times in my whole life, and especially not in england. My inner confidence has drastically improved and I feel, not completely changed, but that I am in a process of changing and getting stronger.

So seeing as all of the students were beginners, I can only recommend this course for beginners, but I can confirm these guys really know their stuff and I’m sure can adapt to guys at all levels. For me it was life changing, and I intend to master this craft.

andy